The Conversation of the Life of the Beginning (LSC)


Eternal Glorious Fountain Ministry (EGFM)

www.egfm.org

Programme: Lekki Soul Center (LSC)

Date: Wednesday, 2nd Feb. 2022

Ministering: Rev. Mrs. Helen Oyegoke

 

 

The formations that are currently in men are not as God formed them from the beginning (Matt. 19:8). Sin was not in existence from the beginning. It is a strange conversation that came into the world that we now regard as normal. We accepted it in deception and darkness. It is a conversation we met when we came into the world, and it has now formed us. As a result of this, when light comes to us, it looks strange. This conversation was first found in the creature that God created as good but perverted himself with evil. Light is alien to us; but in truth, light is the original conversation. But these days, God is bringing us to the light of the beginning.

The commandment to love our friends and hate our enemies was once given by God because the people could not bear the original commandment. They had so fallen and were without strength. The laws of Moses were as a result of the hardness of the heart of the people (Mark 10:5), but Jesus came teaching another law. God gives lower laws because of the lack of strength in men. From New Birth, a people are raised with the milk of the word. This is so that they can increase in strength gradually. After the milk of the word, the meat of the word is introduced to them. This brings the knowledge of Christ, which restores lost strength. Christ brings strength that delivers a soul from carnality. A carnal soul cannot receive anything that is higher than the knowledge of Christ.

Christ died for the ungodly when they were without strength (Rom. 5:6). The ungodly are those that are without strength. The ungodly cannot receive judgment and knowledge. A Christian at New Birth is not a godly man. Such still needs to be raised to a stature of godliness by the teachings of Christ or the revelations of the truth in Christ. There is a truth that makes a man godly (Titus 1:1). The reason for this truth is to raise godly men. This truth is a revelation of Christ. Christ is a godly man. When the commandments that come from the revelation of Christ are obeyed, a stature of godliness is raised in a man.

(2 Peter 1:1-3) The knowledge of God brings grace. As everlasting life is being unveiled to us, grace is being ministered with it. Everlasting life is the revelation of the life that is in God -- the life of the Father. When the knowledge of everlasting life is being given, the knowledge of the life of the Father is being dispensed. Grace accompanies this knowledge. As was mentioned earlier, this is not a season for dying only. It is a season where grace will be ministered to us. Even in the deaths, we will rejoice because of understanding. As we receive understanding, the hope of a life better than the one we try to keep becomes evidently clear to us. By the grace of God, one will be enabled to drop the lesser life.

It takes power to give substances of godliness (2 Peter 1:3). A man that does not acknowledge the power that makes one godly has a form of godliness and not true godliness. This form of godliness cannot call for judgment. There are truths that are to be acknowledged (Tit. 1:1). The reason for those truths is to make us godly. They are real substances that can form a man just as lies had formed us. Those lies include philosophy, deceit, traditions of men. There are good values in being traditional; but when those traditions are exposed to light, one would discover that there is ungodliness in them.

Scripture says to give custom to whom it is due (Rom. 13:7). Therefore, one should not go to a place and ignore people’s traditions; else such a one will not be able to reach them (1 Cor. 9:22). Christ begins to knock off the mindsets, in our minds, that are raised by the world. A man who is raised by traditions and some good Christian attitudes, still needs a revelation of the truth that is in Christ to form the kind of godly man that God wants.

"But ye have not so learned Christ; if so be that ye have heard Him, and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus…" (Eph. 4:20-21). The truth that is in Jesus is what God uses to sanctify us. A sanctified man is a holy man, and that holiness is achieved by obedience to the revelation of truth that is in Jesus. A godly man is raised by truth.

The end of our journey is the place of glory and virtue (2 Pet. 1:3). You cannot get to glory without the stature and nature of glory. What informs glory is an erection of the image of God. Glory is an image (2 Cor. 3:18). There is no glory without a change. The glory that God meant for man is the very glory of God, which Jesus Christ attained unto (Heb. 1:3). That glory rests on the image. We are changed into the same image that we are beholding.

There is an image that God has that we know nothing about. We have different images of God in our minds which have been painted by religion and other pursuits. If God is not unveiled to us, we would not know who God is. God has an image that we know nothing about. What we do is guess, and we guess according to our formation. For example, someone who is tough will say God is tough, and would not forbear people’s infirmities. Such a person needs the tutoring of the Spirit to make him see God very well.

We need light from Him to show us who He is. We cannot take the person of God at the New Birth. His person is too weighty and burdensome for a carnal man. Though the Bible says "His commandments are not grievous" (1 John 5:3), they are grievous to a carnal man. That is why Paul said to the Corinthians that he could not speak to them as unto spiritual because they could not bear it (1 Cor. 3:1-3). Paul said they could only take milk because milk will appeal to the carnal mind.

A child cannot endure patience. Babies in Christ do not understand patience. When God wants to move further with a person, the person would have to wait for some things. It is not because He does not want to give them those things, but He wants them to learn that their life does not depend on that thing. All the things we ask God to provide quickly are things that pass away. God wants to knock out the nature of being bound by time from within us because Satan is using that to make us run into destruction. God allows human timing with some Christians; but when He loves a person and wants to give them more, He begins to give a new definition of time.

It takes time to come into understanding; it takes time to save a soul and it takes time to come to salvation. A person who is always in a hurry, who is bound by time, will miss God's things. Most times, the thing that a person hurries to get is not enjoyed. God will sometimes delay in meeting a need to show a person that there is beauty in patience. We all have different arrangements. What God wants to do is for us to be patient enough to fit into His own arrangement, because what He wants to give to us is more than what we want.

When you reveal everlasting life to a carnal man, he will not see the value in it because he has never placed value on anything spiritual. He has never been dealt with along the path of becoming spiritual, of appreciating things that are not seen. That is why They need to give us things that pertain to life and godliness to raise a godly man. A godly man to a large extent has come to appreciate things that are not seen. Real things are unseen. Unseen things are tangible. They make us godly so we can begin to relate with and have the ability to take the knowledge of God.

“For it became Him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the Captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.” (Heb. 2:10). These sons are sons in the holy place; sons who have become godly. These are godly men. To bring them to glory is because They want to take them to another level. They had a level of glory as sons of the holy place. Sons of the holy place are people who have used the truth that is in Christ Jesus (Eph. 4:21) to attain a level of sonship.

“… through sufferings” (Heb. 2:10). The sufferings are having to obey higher judgements. They look like suffering but they are obediences. God wants to make us perfect as the Son was also made perfect (Heb. 5:8-9). The Son learnt things that made Him perfect. After He had attained a level of sonship, He still had to take judgement that would make Him perfect.

“For both He that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause He is not ashamed to call them brethren…” (Heb. 2:11). Those who He calls brethren are those who have been sanctified. He sanctified them by giving them the knowledge of the truth (John 17:19). They have been sanctified and separated for a higher knowledge and judgement.

“…saying, I will declare Thy name unto My brethren, In the midst of the church will I sing praise unto Thee.” (Heb. 2:12). ‘Thy name’ is not ‘G-O-D’. It is what God is made up of, that is, His substances and things. These are everlasting life substances. The brethren are those who have used truth to become sanctified and have become godly. They are the ones who can now take the revelation of God. The revelation of God is very high from what man knows. He is declaring the name to the brethren because He wants them to bear His name and also answer that name. When He is declaring the substances of God -- the things that make up God -- to His brethren, they will begin to see it, do it and become it. They will begin to acquire that name. That name is a nature.

The nature of God is so beautiful and sweet. He is tender, loving and kind. A carnal man cannot take it. Rather, he will feel cheated when you declare the name of God to him and tell him to have that name. Part of His name is what He is declaring – to love our enemies. These are the laws that made Him up, or His name. The reason He is declaring it to us is because He wants us to answer that name also. When the Son is manifested, we are able to see the Father; for the Father first declared His name to the Son. We begin by first seeing the Son. As we are seeing the Son, we are becoming like Him.

“Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when He shall appear, we shall be like Him; for we shall see Him as he is.” (1 John 3:2). He is declaring the name of His Father so the Father will appear and be understood. The Father is not what we think. He has to declare His Father’s name to us. This is the revelation of everlasting life. The laws that govern everlasting life are the laws of the Father.

(1 John 3:1-2) The world does not and cannot know Him. Here, Apostle John is writing to people who have finished their curriculum in Christ. “What we shall be” does not yet appear; though they are sons that have used Christ and become Christ. This is because there is something that is beyond Christ which they are meant to be. There is another image or person higher than Christ, which is another name that they are to bear.

“And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.” (1 John 3:3). The hope of a believer is to be like Him. To be like Him, we must see Him as He is. When we see Him, we will see what He looks like. Then, we will begin to do it. By doing it, we are becoming like Him. All the demands that He is making on us are not because He hates us; but He wants us to be like Him. There is nothing as beautiful or glorious as being like Him.

“And Jesus said unto him, Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay His head.” (Luke 9:58). Jesus did not feel inferior. Things did not define him. Rather, what defined him was the life that he was acquiring; who He is on the inside. This is not to say that it is a sin for other things to be added. He will give us other things because he knows we have need of these things (Matt. 6:32-33). Seeking to become like Him is seeking the kingdom of God. What it means to seek the kingdom of God is to become like Him and to be as He is.

“But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ. Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ…” (Phi. 3:7-8). Paul was not seeking knowledge for the sake of shining or personal glory. He sought knowledge for the purpose of winning Christ and owning Him. Having the Lord cannot be compared to things.

“that I may know Him, and the power of His resurrection, and the fellowship of His sufferings, being made conformable unto His death; if by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.” (Phi 3:10-11). We cannot become anything except we know Him. Though Paul had gotten the resurrection from the dead because he had won Christ, he still pressed on and wanted to attain the resurrection of the dead.

"But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway." (1 Cor. 9:27). We must put our flesh under because it will rob us of this inheritance. Grace is meant to strengthen us to obey so that we can come into these things.

"That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life…" (1 John 1:1). They cannot teach “that which was from the beginning” to babies. This is the correct and original conversation that Jesus said, "in the beginning, it was not so" (Matt. 19:18). There is “that which was from the beginning”; there is “that which came after”. All the conversations that “came after” were the reason man fell and became degenerated.

When God was coming to raise man, He started by raising the Jews with the law; but the law of Moses was not “that which was from the beginning”. It was just a makeshift because the Jews at that time could not take “that which was from the beginning”. They were already beaten down. God called them a stiff-necked people (Exo. 33:3). They could not do that which was the original conversation for man.

"In Him was life; and the life was the light of men." (John 1:4). The light (life or conversation) of the beginning is the light meant for man but man fell short of this. Man is now being restored to that life: first, with the milk of the word, then the introduction of the doctrine of Christ. The original conversation of the beginning was the conversation of Eternal Life. God is bringing it back to man because He wants man to come back to that beginning conversation, which is referred to as 'the morning light' or ‘the light of the beginning’.

We should not generalise everything the bible says because it does not always apply to everybody. For example, we cannot truly have fellowship with the conversation in 1 John 1 without having everlasting life intact within us. It is with life that we fellowship with life. The declaration of the beginning light is to bring us into a kind of communion and reasoning.

Our current thought pattern is far from the thoughts of the beginning. Thus, our thought patterns must come up by the understanding of the thought pattern of the beginning. The thoughts of the beginning have disappeared from the earth. For example, unforgiveness was not part of the beginning conversations. Keeping record of sin and wrongs were not part of the beginning thoughts. The conversation of the beginning was love. In the beginning, there was no offender, competition, envy or malice. We can see this in the way the Godhead relate with one another; They were never recorded to have competed for Their individual relevance (1 John 5:7). Because of love, They operated seamlessly.

A man can be fine outwardly but can be very ugly on the inside because of wrong and ugly. Sin is an alien conversation that Satan brought into the world. All men were raised with the conversation of sin. Sin and its conversations always end in death. There is an inverted heaven; and the body we carry is a product of it. The conversations of the inverted heaven are conversations of death and destruction. It is difficult for the human body to last long because it has been weakened by the conversations of sin (Gen. 6:3).

Life was the original existence from the beginning, not death. The enemy sinned and died. Then, he brought his image and thoughts to Adam to inherit them. Men display the conversations of the nature of death daily. Today, pride and lust are the order of the day; while meekness and humility are strange in the eyes of man (1 John 2:16). Man has lost sight of the original conversation; sin has become natural.

“For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh…” (Rom. 8:3). The flesh was stronger than the law of Moses. The flesh is a configuration made up of the laws of sin. When a man gets born again, he should not continue in sin because Jesus has destroyed sin. If such a person continues in sin, he is saying that the sacrifice of Jesus is not enough to handle sin (Heb. 6:6).

Laws of sin are flushed out when revelations are obeyed; revelations of another life that comes in the form of truth and righteousness (John 8:32). The law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus takes care of the law of sin and death (Rom. 8:1). The revelation of the Son of God, which is the revelation of everlasting life, takes care of iniquity. The hope that we have is to become like the Son of God (Rom. 8:29).

The Godhead is made up of beginning Beings. They have a conversation amidst Themselves. The Holy Ghost never spoke of Himself; He only spoke of the Son (John 16:13). The Holy Ghost had to speak of Jesus because man needed the substances inside Jesus for his formation. These substances were configured inside Jesus and the Holy Ghost acted as a conduit for man to receive them. But the Holy Ghost would never speak of Himself. This is the conversation of the beginning.

It is an alien conversation that makes people speak about themselves when they are not meant to. People try to push themselves into relevance all the time, not knowing that they are meant to stay hidden. Such people find it difficult to trust God and His timing for their lives. It is not everyone that is meant to be seen. There is a time to be seen, and there is a place to be seen. There are times to stay hidden. Hiddenness is for safety; when a man is unduly exposed, it opens the person up to the snares of Satan.

Christians die unaware, when they disobey the instructions of God -- especially by responding to the desire for fame and the passion for platforms despite their spirits giving them a check against such platforms. Several persons have been ruined by this undue exposure. As a believer, let the Lord organise your exposure as He will only give you what you have been built and authorised for. What is responsible for the desire for undue exposure is an alien lifestyle.

For instance, the devil wanted to go to where he was not authorised to go. Although he was configured to be a cherubim, he wanted more. He wanted more than what God wanted for him. Because of this quest for exposure, he accused God. A believer must run at the sight of anyone accusing spiritual authority. It is worthy of note that when a believer is being built, he is usually afraid at the thought of being set up on his own for exposure. He refrains in godly fear. If a believer is glad at the thought of being set up for his own ministry, that means he is not ready for that ministry.

Through the scriptures, we can see that what Lucifer is selling to man is exactly what made him fall: he wanted another kingdom outside of God's kingdom. In that kingdom, he wanted to be king instead of God. Unknown to him, he was cutting the life off his head. Lucifer fell, died and became ugly. This same conversation that tripped him is all over the world today. Except God opens our eyes, it would not be seen.

Satan is the one accusing authority through a believer. This is an alien conversation: a proof that something is fundamentally wrong. It will take revelation of the light of the beginning to deal with such a lifestyle. It begins to be dealt with when the doctrine of Christ is being ministered. The lack of submission exhibited by the devil did not exist in the beginning because Jesus, who is fully God, submits to the Father. It is for this reason that a man will not be permitted to sit on the throne unless all these alien lifestyles are flushed out by revelation of the light of the beginning. The light of the beginning can be summed up in one word - love.

It is the revelation of the life of the Father that will reveal a believer's unrighteousness, and the alien life that makes up the believer. When the believer admits the presence of that life and begins to walk towards being changed, the light deletes the alien law. This is where meekness is of utmost importance. Once a believer sees himself as one who has been established, he will not admit any light. It is better to acknowledge the presence of the strange life and cry for help, than rationalise or blame others for it.

For example, Jesus did not respond wrongly despite all that was done to Him; because those wrong configurations were not present in Him. In spite of all those pressures, Jesus was able to do good (Luke 22:51). Believers ought to be like Jesus. This will only happen when the conscience has been helped by the raising of judgements via truth. Knowledge gives strength to the conscience. Just like Jesus, the image God wants to form in us is of people who heal the damage done to those sent to hurt us.

For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea. (Hab. 2:4). The knowledge of the glory of God will raise everlasting and eternal men. The earth shall be filled with everlasting men who have trapped the conversation of the beginning; and this conversation was meant for man.

(John 1:1-4) In Him was life: the life of the beginning and that life is the light of men. That is the original life men were supposed to live by. He is the light of the life of God, which is ordained for men. So, men will be taught that life and they will understand it.

When Jesus was about to be arrested, Peter reacted like a natural man by pulling the knife to fight (John 18:10). When a man tries to defend himself, he hurts people. This is the normal reaction of an ordinary man. Despite Peter staying with Jesus for three years, he had not learnt the conversation of Jesus. The conversation of Jesus, though a high one, is meant for men. A man is meant to learn, believe, do and become the conversation of the beginning. It is possible to respond like Jesus, by healing our attacker. It is possible to not raise the sword. One who does this is doing the work of God. To do the work of God is to do that which is revealed about the Godhead.

All the conversations Jesus put up in His passion are conversations of the beginning but it is alien to man. Many see Jesus as failure, but He is not. He only learnt a lifestyle that ended Him on the throne. The conversation of the beginning is the conversation of the throne. Anyone that will sit on the throne must be configured like Him, with the conversation of the beginning. Light will configure us. A man that likes preeminence would not be allowed to sit on the throne. It is an alien conversation that leads to death. The end of the conversation of the beginning is life everlasting.

"But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness." (Rom. 6:17-18) We would be made free from sin, the alien conversation that the devil brought in, by obeying doctrine. The alien conversation configured the bodies that we are carrying now. It is the product of our bodies that is subject to death. To change the body of this death, we must change our conversation.

"But if the Spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, He that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by His Spirit that dwelleth in you." (Rom. 8:11). When the conversation of a man changes, his mortal body benefits from it. Illnesses of the body are a product of alien conversation. The devil came to kill us. He did not just kill our spirits; he wants to kill our souls and our bodies. The reason he is fighting over bodies of saints who are working for God is to prevent them from getting the conversation of the beginning and showing it on earth. He wants to cut their manifestation short. But God would keep us until we get all the download of the morning conversation. He would keep our bodies strong. He would show mercy to us so we can have enough time to trap all His conversation. Long life is not for seeing our grandchildren. It is so we must transfer the same alien conversation to them.

"Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your father." (1 Pet. 1:18). The alien conversation starts and ends in vanity. We need the conversation of the beginning to pass to our children like Abraham whom God said would teach his children to follow Him (Gen. 18:19). We should not live for or after vanity. We should not glory in the alien lifestyle. God is revealing a new lifestyle to us, which we must also teach and culture our children after.

 

 

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